And so it's basically Smart Hulk, really enjoying the movie Spotlight. Including a revamped “Professor Hulk”. So that was great. ‘His face is very expressive. All rights reserved. Was there any little inspiration that you found on the pages of the source material? Having worked our magic on eleven films in the build-up to the Endgame, Framestore was delighted to be part of the creative team, tackling key sequences and characters and ultimately delivering over 300 shots of super-powered VFX for this record-breaking movie. DeLeeuw: Yeah, I mean it's, the shots got cut up a little bit but you know, definitely Cap lifting Mjolnir, we pulled some of that from the panels in that, and there was Smart Hulk holding up the building, we pulled some panels from that. Based on concepts provided by Marvel Studios, the artists built a prototype suit for Captain America that was then adapted for each Avenger. Aitken: And did it to a really high level. So we set up a system whereby the animators can block all that stuff out, and then the timing and the shape of those events can pass through automatically to our simulation team so that we can show a path of that from our animation team to Dan and the team at Marvel and get Mark on it. He is a member of the Visual Effects Society. And then know that we did the simulation work and it's not going to change. They are the first Hollywood films to be shot entirely in digital IMAX, using a … The VFX teams from Avengers: Endgame, Spider-Man: Far From Home, The Lion King, Alita: Battle Angel and Pokemon Detective Pikachu are the contenders in the feature VFX category. Earl: As we were trying to find the character, we had great artwork from the Marvel [visual development] team and we had thousands of photos of Mark, and we did a Medusa capture session, which is a multiple camera photo capture session. RUSSELL EARL. Underdahl: And it happened to be, when we showed him this stuff, his first day of shooting as a Smart Hulk character in that New Asgard environment. I'm pretty sure this is what Dan's after and what the [Russo brothers] are going to like." I mean we have been together since Winter Soldier, and so with Winter Soldier and Civil War and then Infinity War. It's more like, “Wah!”. What do they kind of bring to the table in terms of what you’re doing for the visual effects? And what we learned along the way definitely really helped, I think, ultimately get the best out of all of us. 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The actors had been shot in their individual outfits, so Framestore built digi-doubles before replacing the costumes on the ten characters made up of an array of body types and proportions; ranging from Rocket and Black Widow to Nebula and Hulk. Earl: It was definitely sad to see that sort arc of films capped. They made jets fly, gave Bucky back his redesigned Winter Soldier arm and helped Doctor Strange travel though one of his portals. He knew where the pitfalls were. Learn how the award-winning VFX studio Digital Domain used V-Ray to render an even better Thanos for Marvel's Avengers: Endgame — the highest-grossing film of all time. Just look at the detail in the way the pores stretch and flex with his skin! It was just exactly the right group at the right time. For the real world. Recently, WandaVision actor Paul Bettany claimed that the upcoming Marvel series is bigger than the Avengers: Endgame in one aspect. Underdahl: That is a great point. Jen Underdahl: Thanos and Smart Hulk. We have this new system that debuted on Endgame where we were able to do complex simulation work, which has a particular team, and the pipeline that that does explosions and pyrotechnics and destruction and all that sort thing. And so you wait about a day and a PDF shows up of all the comics with every single Doctor Strange spell ever. That was one of my favorites. Avengers: Endgame premiered in Los Angeles on April 22, 2019, and was released in the United States on April 26, as part of Phase Three of the MCU. You get it where you love it, and the design came in and it turned out, what it's like, and, Smart Hulk looked really handsome. It was a cool idea. I go back and reflect on it and I think it's without the team that was put together by Jen and Victoria [Alonso] and the brothers, these films couldn't happen the way they did. ‘Our Asgard was synced into FX and the destruction we did for Ragnarok so the challenge was working out which version of what would be the one to use,’ says Allman. But yeah, the Russos were great as the whole team was. That's the end of the secret to the Russos, and the secrets to what was great about these films is that was the right people at the right time. Avengers: Endgame and Game Of Thrones VFX firm Cinesite has secured investment from Gryphion Capital Investments and new banking facilities from Barclays and NatWest which amount to $112M. At that point we were pretty far along with Smart Hulk, so he could make this just Smart Hulk – or Professor Hulk – with just normal Ruffalo delivering this interview and we saw, we're like, "Oh my God, this is great", and we sent it down to these guys. Underdahl: Pretty darn cool under fire too, these guys. Every nuance, every little twitch and eye dart, slight curl of the lip and muscle tension needed to be translated.’. Visual effects company Weta Digital uploaded a video showing off its work on the fourth film in the Avengers franchise, with plenty of green screens making way for gorgeous final shots. DeLeeuw: There was an old version of Infinity War where Quill stole Howard's ship so we knew that's where Howard was and so it was kind of the like, well, "Let's have Howard come out," and then it was like quick hustle to get the asset to Weta and have them drop it into the shot. Were there little Easter eggs that you guys put a lot of effort into simply because it meant something to you to kind of sneak this in or get this one little two-second shot of somebody? He says, "I'm going to enjoy doing this." Aiken: Ah, we really wanted to do it! ComicBook.com takes a deep dive behind the scenes of the epic films visual effects leads. Smart Hulk’s facial build was particularly challenging, as VFX Supervisor Stuart Penn explains: ‘There was a lot of work involved as their face shapes are so different - Hulk is massive, his mouth proportionally bigger, his eyes are sunken with deeper sockets. Advertisement For the scenes where we see Thanos on his retirement planet, Digital Domain did an amazing job of bringing this […] So we found this scene: it was an interview that he had done after the movie Spotlight, it was a serious thing, and so he animated it. Did you deliver? Earl: And just that and just having a good shorthand and knowing like, "You know what? Says Pavdeja, ‘A lot of the view of the characters was from the top down and we had to show them not only shrinking but falling down in 3D space - quite a difficult thing to do in 2D. Much like the heroes of the Marvel Cinematic Universe assemble en masse to tackle problems of intergalactic proportions, the visual effects artists behind Avengers: Endgame also gather the best and brightest among Hollywood’s top effects houses to create everything from never-before-seen spectacles like the various superhero-led legions emerging from Doctor Strange’s interdimensional portals to the subtleties of Professor Hulk showing off for some admiring fans. No, but it was in the script so we're going to flood the area and drown Rocket.". The enormous stress they must have been under. Mark's like, "Yeah, that's great". Advertisement This sequence of Tony Stark, lost in space on the M-ship, was mostly done by Cinesite, who created the lonely exterior shots […] Did Rocket have to be in there? Like, things are going to change, the expectations are going to be higher, and so I felt like we were really well prepared. Framestore delighted in being part of the creative team behind the VFX of Avengers: Endgame: the epic conclusion to the first 22 films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The gate has a similar look to the van but needed to be much more geometry-based, integrating with the shrinking Avengers and FX. DeLeeuw: Well, I think it's something that since Winter Soldier they've got their key phrases for things, like "Keep it grounded.” And then, with this, it's one of the things they said was, "The best idea wins.” So whether it be in script or in stunt [visualization] or in pre-visualization or animation from the visual effects houses, they're really collaborative. Well now you can get a glimpse of all of that from the sets of Avengers: Endgame, thanks to a VFX breakdown video shared by Weta Digital. 'The Avengers have been triumphant, and as entertainment, they have been unconquerable. The portals that open up that all our heroes come through are handled by that same team. It’s safe to say a large part of Avengers: Endgame is visual effects. So what was that pushing forward task like on this one? ILM Visual Effects Supervisor. You know, if it's in the visual effects book, we did it. So if you've got a way to try to beat an idea then they take it. soars at the box office and has taken in an astonishing $2.2 billion in less than two weeks - making it the 2nd highest-grossing movie in history worldwide (!).. We had an army. Sources reveal that WandaVision will have more visual effects shots than Avengers: Endgame. And by the time we got to Endgame and we had shortcuts, we had built-in efficiencies: we knew the animation that we were going to take care of with Spider-Man because we had introduced him to the MCU in Civil War, and we had Giant-Man nailed and how to sell all the scale stuff, so everything built on itself gradually over the seven years to the point where we really could handle all the technology to the creative task that was before us. Tiny changes to his face had a huge effect on the performance.’ A new subset of facial shapes was built to enable the animators to achieve more complex and nuanced expression and give them more control in the animation. We did back session with him, but we had his performance and we looked at all the previous Hulk models. You're jumping from one [VFX] vendor to the next, and you wouldn't know it seeing the film. Incredible! ‘We had a lot of freedom to work with the brief - in terms of the opticals, colour and luminosity’, says Allman. Here’s What Avengers: Endgame Star Chris Evans Looked Like as Old Steve Rogers Before and After VFX August 7, 2019; The Russo Brothers Explain How ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Was Inspired By Antonioni-Level Darkness April 25, 2019; How Samuel L. Jackson Was De-aged For Just About All Of ‘Captain Marvel’ March 29, 2019 A two-time Oscar nominee who has been working on Marvel pics since 2013, visual effects supervisor Dan Deleeuw found some of the most complex blockbuster work of his 26-year career in Joe and Antho… KATHERINE FARRAR BLUFF. Says Allman, ‘changes had to be subtle as small tweaks could make him look like a completely different character or even animal.’ Rocket was treated to a new flight suit, complete with a dapper red scarf and goggles, ‘there was a lot of detail to the costume,’ says Penn, ‘building the threads, adding a fine groom, right down to the texture of the bobbles of his scarf.’ Â, The Avengers wear Quantum suits made of high-tech armoured cloth and carbon fibre which they don to travel through the quantum realm. And just really a pleasure to work with. KEVIN MARTEL. Here’s What Avengers: Endgame Star Chris Evans Looked Like as Old Steve Rogers Before and After VFX August 7, 2019; The Russo Brothers Explain How ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Was Inspired By Antonioni-Level Darkness April 25, 2019; How Samuel L. Jackson Was De-aged For Just About All Of ‘Captain Marvel’ March 29, 2019 Avengers; Endgame is nominated for three Visual Effects Society awards, and has also made the shortlist for the forthcoming Academy Awards visual effects nominations. Did you miss Thanos and his epic fights against the Avengers in INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME? Smart Hulk was obviously a big part of that, but tell me about knowing that you want to take it to the next level and make this great capstone for the last decade of films. It is known for having worked on a number of superhero films in the X-Men, DC, and MCU. And so it's like it's all just at your fingertips. And he's in it for about 17 or 18 frames of the movie, so I think in terms of effort per time on screen, it was up there, but it was worth it to have him. Over a dozen VFX companies from Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) to Cantina Creative to Perception to Digital Domain were involved in creating the movie’s nearly 2,500 VFX shots. Visit dneg.com to find out more about our work on the movie. And it's like, "Yeah, we're going to use the Winds of Watoom, and then we're going to use this, and we're going to banish them to another dimension." Having destroyed it in Marvel Studios’ Thor: Ragnarok, Framestore were required to piece it back together. Was something that you saw in a Marvel comic that you really want to make visually translate into the film. Was there a "Eureka!" During our chat, we spoke with visual effects producer at Marvel Studios Jen Underdahl, visual effects supervisor at Marvel Studios Dan DeLeeuw, visual effects supervisor at Industrial Light & Magic Russell Earl, and visual effects supervisor at Weta Digital Matt Aitken. Aitken: Just the scope of the show is so huge that it's going to be special because of that, so we worked on Thanos for both films, and for Endgame I think he's more complex emotionally. Underdahl: For me it was just making sure that we had the right team size and we had the right companies, and we cast not only the vendors that were going to do the work with their enormously talented supervisors and teams below them, but even our second unit supervisor and our main unit supervisor, who is really a master at performance capture and he's done several movies doing it and we knew he was the right guy. Anything you want, you’re just like, "Yeah, I need to know this," and, “There you go.”. Says Enrik Pavdeja, Compositing Supervisor, ‘we worked up lots of optical FX in compositing; heat distortions, colour breakup, aberrations and even our own blue plasma. This is illustrated best when you look at the number of VFX shots in the original Iron Man, approximately 1,000, and compare it to Avengers: Endgame, which had nearly 2,500 VFX shots. ‘We used the nanobot tech to give the impression that it comes out of nowhere.’, The team also had the chance to use their creativity to create a series of mesmerising quantum effects. Filming of Avengers: Endgame began on August 10, 2017 and concluded on January 11, 2018, with additional filming in the Downtown and Metro Atlanta areas, New York state, Scotland, and England. Weta Digital has been in the digital effects game for over 25 years, and the company’s most recent contribution to the cinematic landscape was in Avengers: Endgame… Earl: Prior to that we had shot a test when they were shooting [Thor:] Ragnarok, and the [Endgame directors Joe and Anthony Russo] called, had them shoot a test and he actually was playing it a bit more on the Hulk side than the Banner side. Ant Man’s ‘Quantum van,’ which first features at the end of Marvel Studios’ Ant-Man and The Wasp, is revisited in Endgame as the Avengers test how it works. DeLeeuw: I don't think there's anything that we didn't do in this movie. ComicBook.com: There may be a different answer for each of you, but when you got a sense of what was going to be required for this film, what was the thing that you said, “Okay, if we don't do this, we're not going to get anywhere,"? We want our animators to be able to control the timing and the way that those elements play, because they are kind of dramatic elements in their own rights. Our work features the biggest-ever battle in the MCU with almost every hero and villain unleashing their full potential. A little greyer around the muzzle, he required careful tweaking. But we knew that if we didn't get Smart Hulk and capture Mark [Ruffalo's] performance, that to me was the one thing that sort of kept me up at night, because we were rebuilding the pipeline in order to make sure that we captured the fidelity of his performance and just the subtleties of it and translating that into Smart Hulk or something where if he wasn't in the scene with everybody else we just wanted to make sure that we got that right. I mean, we're fortunate in that we've worked on a lot of prior Hulk films, so we just were going through all of that and … wanted to find [footage of] just Mark being Mark. By Scott Huver But I think you're not really done until you get the confidence of the actor to go along with it because it's something that the same thing we did with Josh shot of Thanos, where he really enjoyed the show. 2D LookDev Lead Tomas Lefebve used Nuke to get as close to the original look as possible before breaking it apart to decide on which elements needed 3D FX. Infinity War reportedly was 97% VFX , and we’d imagine its follow-up wasn't that different. 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"', 'Endgame reinforces that there's still a beating heart beneath all the machinery. “Holy cow – how are we going to get that one done?” And then here we all get back together for these two. And we had a lot of systems in place where we could share assets back and forth to Dan and Jen keeping everything consistent and to a really high level. Their helmets, based on Ant Man’s, also needed to be built in CG and manifest in the same way over the actor’s face. The sequence originally began with a shot of  Odin's tower from over the mountains, which the team worked on for six months before a decision to switch to the more traditional front view point was made. Racking up a total of 7 sequences comprising of 337 VFX shots, Digital Domain was one of the many VFX companies responsible for making Avengers Endgame, that looked like this, to look like this! ', 'It’s special that Marvel manages to achieve the seemingly impossible in ‘Endgame’: creating a movie steeped in years of lore that still manages to recapture the excitement of watching your very first Marvel experience. Paul Bettany claims that WandaVision has surpassed Avengers: Endgame! ILM Visual Effects Producer. Underdahl: But I mean very, very last minute, too, you guys were absolutely buried, and to ask you to do yet one more thing--. We started development on that character about a year before we even started, really. 2. Copyright 2020 ComicBook.com. Avengers Endgame was definitely in store for some amazing VFX. ILM Animation Supervisor. He carries a chunk of the film, he is the antagonist so he has to work really well. To kick-start this process, a small team at Framestore were tasked with developing their machine-learning technology to take source footage of Mark Ruffalo and create a solve from that to match it in animation; ‘it was a way of convincing the client that we had the software that could do this quickly,’ explains Robert Allman, CG Supervisor. So we pushed the system that we used to create Thanos so the head had a range of emotional complexity that it supported. But it's definitely better than what we had and just makes the movie better.". The studio were also tasked with animating Rocket. With a reported budget of $356 million and box office gross of $2.8 billion, Avengers: Endgame was the most successful film of all time, by monetary standards. Marvel fans who wonder just how the filmmakers pulled off the climactic final battle in Avengers: Endgame can now get a behind-the-scenes look at how it was made.. The wise-talking raccoon returned to Framestore, who originated his character for Marvel Studios’ Guardians of the Galaxy, before upgrading him for Vol. We never saw it. Thanos, 100%. Says Penn, ‘miraculously we just switched the camera, rendered it and were surprised to discover that it actually worked. More From This Author You get to the point where they trust you with what their performance is going to be and they know that you can reproduce their performance, so they can just not have to overact or push through the motion capture or anything like that. Even though Avengers: Endgame was a fairly character-driven piece, with only the final 20 minute battle being the major set-piece, it was still a visual effects heavy picture. Barclays… The result was a first pass of animation that could be used by the filmmakers to decide on the edit and begin the process of refining and adding face-shapes to use in the rig. Avengers: Endgame weaves the entire MCU saga together in the biggest superhero movie of all time. All of it was hard! Earl: The nice thing is that we've all worked together on a number of these films. We were responsible for the climactic final battle that plays out in the rubble of the Avenger’s compound. Directors: Anthony Russo & Joe Russo Release Date: 26 April 2019 (USA) […] We were very aware that we had to take him to the next level for the head's character to come through the right way. The flip side of that: was there something that you thought going in, "Oh, that'll be a piece of cake," that turned out to be a little bit more labor-intensive than you anticipated? It also made for a much better shot.’. From bringing Smart Hulk into the MCU, revisiting Rocket, building environments and futuristic FX, the film presented a variety of different challenges that the team relished. by. VFX Industry Shakeup: Framestore Buys Company 3 and Method . The VFX are made by: Industrial Light & Magic Weta Digital DNEG Framestore Cinesite Digital Domain RISE Lola VFX Cantina Creative Capital T Technicolor VFX Territory Studio The Production VFX Supervisors are: Dan DeLeeuw and Swen Gillberg. Avengers: Endgame is now officially the highest-grossing film of all time, wrestling the worldwide box-office crown away from Avatar. So just making sure that our review systems, our pipelines, everything was as set up and as well-built and robust as it could possibly be, because whatever was going to come, we had to make sure we were protecting the imagery, and it couldn't be because of some sort of mechanical failure or some sort of personnel failure. We passed these pre-comps to lighting to create the interactive quantum plasma before FX.’, This effect is magnified with the build of the Quantum Gate, the Avengers’ time travel portal that features in 22 spellbinding shots. If we're going to have our heroes in the scene--, DeLeeuw: We're going to put them all in. And you could see throughout how well he didn't overact. So it's always something we go back to. Avengers Endgame was definitely in store for some amazing VFX. With Doctor Strange, we started it on Infinity War, but what's great is it's the beauty of working at Marvel and it's the production company that is Marvel, you've got people you can say to, "Okay, I need a list of every single Doctor Strange spell ever." Avengers: Endgame was nominated for best visual effects at the Oscars, but lost to war epic 1917. We're going to flood a room with Rocket in it. Underdahl: Who had grown together too, starting with what we achieved on Winter Soldier up through what we thought at the time the Civil War was like the biggest thing. Industrial Light & Magic, ILM, the Bulb and Gear design logo are all registered service marks or service marks of Lucasfilm Ltd. © & ™ 2021 Lucasfilm Ltd. Avengers: Endgame. Keyframe animation was then deployed for over 60 Smart Hulk shots, with head cam footage from the shoot used for reference. So if your idea gets beat, you're kind of like, "Oh, okay, bummer. Balancing the human performance of Banner and the seismic power of the Hulk required a deft mix of cutting-edge tech and Framestore’s world-renowned animation, and the result is a striking fully-CG character whose unique performance is loaded with human nuance, emotion and comedy. Yeah, it's like, "There's Rocket, we all know Rocket. Is there a way we could do this differently?" And for the fans, you know, when they get to see him there's a huge cheer. Every time you guys go to work, you're trying to push things a little bit further forward, and this movie had an extra special dimension because it was the capstone of 10 years of Marvel films, and you've been involved in a lot of them. It's … These suits then had to manifest over their original outfits using the nanobot technology Framestore developed for Iron Man’s bleeding-edge Infinity War suit. We like, aged someone up, we made them younger and then fire, smoke, water explosions, you know, it's a character animation. The film's always open to suggestion from all the departments and that collaborative atmosphere is imbued in everyone. He could play it more subtly and we could capture that. Underdahl: Howard the Duck. Having worked our magic on eleven films in the build-up to the Endgame, Framestore was delighted to be part of the creative team, tackling key sequences and characters and ultimately delivering over 300 shots of super-powered VFX for this record-breaking movie. 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